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Apparently a couple people think this post was in response to another post by another blogger, and I just want to say that the timing was a coincidence. Probably because this is a popular topic right now. Either way, this was posted in reaction to mainstream liberal new sites and what they are saying about Sarah Palin and her daughter. NOT to some other very small stream bloggers post. K? Thnx.
Okay so Sarah Palin’s 17 year old daughter is pregnant. And? So… what’s your point? Oh yah, that makes Sarah Palin a hypocrite right? Her daughter made a mistake by having sex. All of us make mistakes. Parents, as much as they try, cannot control their teenagers 100%. But you know what? The Palin family is doing the right thing. They are supporting her 100%. Her daughter is of course going to have the baby, and accept responsibility for her actions.
Now, if it were Obama’s daughter, we all know based on his voting record and the statements he’s made (don’t take my word for it, go look it up) that he wouldn’t want one of his daughters to be “punished with a baby” so I’m sure she would be skipping off to the abortion clinic by now. Wouldn’t want to ruin Daddy’s image. Since when did babies go from blessings to punishments?
Oh wait, I forgot. Babies are only blessings if you want them. Otherwise, just partially birth them, stick a knife in their neck, and rip their spinal cord out. Problem solved, right? Well if that fails, just leave them in a dumpster or something to die.
EDIT: I know that you silly liberals would like to say that my facts are wrong on this one, but Obama’s record speaks for its self. I never, EVER said that abortion was the topic he was speaking on in that video clip of him. So please, if you are going to try to call me out, at least get YOUR facts straight. And believe it or not, the ripping out of spinal cords has been used in late term abortion (where do I get this from? My high schools health class video). Yes, obviously that was an extreme and brutal example but a factual example at that. I am aware that that is not the standard practice of partial birth abortion. Just simply cutting the spinal cord seems to be enough. Forget the ripping out of it, as if just cutting it is somehow not as bad. I’m sorry to be so graphic and blunt about it. Next time I’ll try to fluff it up a little and add a cherry on top like you liberals do, to try and take away from what’s actually going on here.
Again, don’t take my word for it. I trust that people would be smart enough to check up on these things on their own instead of taking the word of ANY source of media. But then again… if you support Obama… your level of “smartness” is already pretty low.
Alright, go ahead, I’ll open comments. But please, while you proceed to tell me how awesome Obama is and how I’m so wrong and how SOME forms of abortion are ok, please answer me this:
When does life begin? How can you say that you agree that abortion is okay, but late term abortion isn’t ok? ABORTION IS ABORTION. It is a life, a person, a BEATING HEART. Until what point does it become not okay to take another life? 8 weeks, 12 weeks, 16 weeks, 20 weeks…. when? When in your screwed up liberal minds does that tiny helpless baby go from all of a sudden not being a life (although it has a beating heart) to being a life and then, well darn it, okay now we won’t murder it.
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:56 pm
I came here from the blog of the person who tried to call you out and I just want to say that I think your point was pretty clear. You didnt say he was talking about abortion in the video. People get heated about things like this and will try to use anything they can against you.
I have read your blog before and I have noticed that you use extreme examples to point out how stupid or messed up you think something is. Some people can’t handle that sort of thing though and interpret what you say extremely literally and it’s just stupid to do that.
They know what you’re saying is accurate and they don’t have anything to use against you so they resort to ridiculous twisting of things. It’s the liberal way.
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:10 pm
I think the next time you close comments to an issue, you should not second guess yourself and later open them.
There are a lot of issues that are hushed because no one can ever get through them in a civilized fashion - abortion and the death of babies may be highest on the list. Anyway, my point is, if you post such controversial topics, don’t give into the craziness and allow comments that will only end up making you angry in the end because people will never fully respect the wishes of a Blog owner if it gets their voice heard.
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:11 pm
The comments were not opened because of second guessing myself.
The comments were opened because now I’m actually interested in seeing if anyone will bother to answer my question.
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Right on Sarah!! Couldn’t have said any of that better myself.
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:42 pm
I totally agree with you Sarah! It is not for us to decide who gets to live and who doesn’t. Abortion is murder. Period.
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Hi Sarah, I’ve read your blog for awhile but have never commented! I just wanted to say that as a liberal =) I completely agree and disagree with you. I’m pro-choice, but I would never, ever, ever, ever, ever have an abortion. So I guess I’m pro-life, but I believe in giving women the choice to do what they want with their bodies. So yeah, that’s my point of view on the issue. I think (but really have no idea) that if Obama’s daughter got knocked up at 17, she wouldn’t immediately run out and get an abortion. Even though Obama’s pro-choice, I still think he would make his daughter have the baby- or at least make her think it through first. But I really have no idea
This just comes from watching his speeches and stuff.
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:35 pm
I like this comment from another blog that I frequent
“We all are pro-life. Who wakes up in the morning saying, ‘I want to kill babies today’?. But who am I to say what another woman can or cannot do to her own body?”
I agree with her. I also agree with what Obama said in his speech about abortion and birth control.
“We may not agree on abortion, but surely we can agree on reducing the number of unwanted pregnancies in this country.”
It is important to remember that Obama was born to an 18 year old girl.
I don’t care if Palin’s daughter is pregnant or not. I think people need to focus more on the politics less on family life.
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:37 pm
I would also like to say that I love your blog, Sarah, really I do.. I am also aware that it is your blog and you can say whatever you want, but the following kind of offends me.
“But then again… if you support Obama… your level of “smartness” is already pretty low.”
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Why should a woman be able to do what she wants with “her body” when it involves the killing of another life? If a woman becomes pregnant, it’s not JUST her body that is in consideration anymore.
I’m sorry to offend you. I am not sorry, however, for thinking that voting for Obama is a very unsmart move.
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Thank you for re-allowing comments. You may or may not agree with everybody, but I think a lot of your readers would have some really good input
I don’t think the situation is as cut & dry as you may want to believe. The world is not filled with two types of people: baby killers or otherwise. I know a lot of people who are pro-choice but would personally never get an abortion. They simply believe that they do not have the right to dictate what others do with their bodies. I realize your convictions probably stem from your religious beliefs, but many people (most scientists included) do not believe that life starts at conception.
You do not have to agree with this & of course that is fine.
That being said, implying that people who support Obama (or those who are pro-choice) are stupid is completely out of line. I’m sure there are many Democrats who do read your blog & probably took offense to that statement. I do not identify myself as a Democrat, but yes, I am voting for Obama (for reasons that we do not need to get into). I don’t consider myself “unsmart” - I just went back to school (yesterday, actually!) to get my master’s degree in international finance & economics. I know it’s your blog & you can say what you want, but it’s sort of rude to be calling your readers “silly liberals with screwed up minds” simply for not sharing your personal opinion. It would not hurt to be more mindful that everybody is entitled to their own beliefs, even if you think they are wrong or do not agree. It does not make them bad, evil or ignorant people.
There is a way to express your beliefs without attacking other people & alientating your loyal blog readers.
(Just as a side note, this is my major problem with Sarah Palin. I, for one, do not give a rat’s ass that her teenage daughter is pregnant. However, when somebody is running for political office, one would expect their immediate family to be in line with that person’s beliefs. It looks bad on Palin. She’s going to try to impress her beliefs on the country when she can’t even impress them upon her own daughter? Not to mention that she is completely unqualified for the job…
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:39 pm
I think what people have a problem with is “false advertising.”
Sarah Palin doesn’t have more experience than Obama (unless you count three years on city council for a 6000 resident town “experience”
[*see below for breakdown]. The problem lies in the fact that most voters (especially conservatives) are petty. They don’t want to hear about facts, numbers, or truth (which takes longer to tell than a 30 second commercial during their favorite reality show). They want to hear things that will make them dislike someone.
Also, Palin should rethink her stance of “abstinence only” sex education. We’ve already seen it not work over the entirety of it’s existence. Now she has an example in her own home. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is an indicator of a low level of “smartness.”
I think voting for someone who isn’t very smart would be an unsmart move.
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Experience breakdown:
Sarah Palin:
1988 worked as a sports reporter for KTUU-TV
1992 served on City Council for three years
1996-2002 Mayor of Wasilla (6,000 residents)
2002-2004 Alaska Oil&Gas Commission (forced to resign when she was the Ethics Supervisor)
2006-2008 Governor of Alaska (683,478 residents)
Barack Obama:
1990 first black president of Harvard Law Review
1992 University of Chicago Law School fellowship
1992-1996 taught Constitutional law at University of Chicago Law
1997-2004 Illinois state senator (12,852,548 residents)
2005-2008 US Senate (+300 million residents)
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:40 pm
LOL this is all kind of funny to me, how much attention I’m getting over this.
I know that all the people who know me “in real life” will get exactly what I was saying. I’m pretty known for saying extreme things to get a point across. It helps to point out how irrational a persons thinking is to say something extreme in return.
Although… it appears there are a lot of young people on the internet who don’t “get it”.
It wasn’t my intention to say that liberals are all “stupid”. The ones I’ve personally encountered lately though, seem to be not so bright.
I love to hear about facts, numbers, and truths regarding everything. I wish more people did. Maybe then more people would make educated decisions instead of listening to celebrities tell people to “Vote for Obama because he’s hot”.
I would love to continue to sit here and dissect every single thing I’ve said and clarify it all for everyone to completely understand… but I have orders to fill for my boutique.
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Maybe Obama represents what those people believe.
Celebrities have nothing to do with it.
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:01 pm
I’m actually planning on voting for Republican Ron Paul (if he decides to run, I’m not sure if he is– haven’t kept up with it lately), not Obama. But if I had to choose between Obama and McCain, I would definitely choose Obama.
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I just don’t think that it is the decision of the majority to tell the rest of America what is moral or not. I think each individual women has to make her own decision about what is moral based on what they believe in and what their circumstances are.
I just wanted to add that I really like reading your blog because I enjoy seeing someone elses point of view and trying to understand where they are coming from. That is why I decided to respond to this blog entry
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:36 pm
The only point I was trying to make with my post was that abortion was not the issue… I myself am pro-choice, because it is not my place to decide an issue for someone else. I’m never going to get an abortion, even if the baby is unplanned.
The point was that Palin is choosing to send her children and the children of others blindly into the world of sex and babies, and still expects them to come out on top (no pun intended.) It’s a little bit impractical to think that children are always going to listen to their parents, especially teens. Just telling them “Don’t have sex!” and not educating them on birth control is like telling them not to drink the milk, but giving them 37 cookies. Unrealistic.
But I have to say, I pretty much agree with you on the topic of abortion. It isn’t right to kill unborn babies. It isn’t right for partial birth abortions to be legal. But it isn’t our right to judge someone for their decision, and it isn’t right for us to try and choose for them.
September 3rd, 2008 at 8:04 pm
That’s what I didn’t understand… who said abortion was not the issue? It was the issue that I was talking about, on my site. So, that’s why I am still kinda like huh?
September 3rd, 2008 at 10:07 pm
The more I read this blog the more I think you are such a narrow minded, hipocritical bigot.
But I still read it. It’s like a train wreck.
I am sure you won’t approve this post as much as I am sure you will read it.
Thank you for the entertainment.
September 3rd, 2008 at 10:23 pm
I think it’s cute how much you secretly like me, “Veronica”.
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:04 pm
Jessica, you said “I just don’t think that it is the decision of the majority to tell the rest of America what is moral or not. I think each individual women has to make her own decision about what is moral based on what they believe in and what their circumstances are.”
Let me comment on this: What you said simply cannot and will never work, because even though we are individuals, we make up a society. You cannot have a society without having a majority, that leads that society in a direction. The direction you go as a society will make VERY LARGE impacts on the individuals that make up that society. To act like we can just let everyone do their own thing without “violating” their personal rights is ignorance at best, because your society will then break down and that is what causes civil unrest and disruption. AND, to sit back and pretend that we cannot as a society make a wholesome effort to protect innocent life because it involves personal choice is the same exact thing as saying we cannot go after a person who chooses to take the life of another person, and want to put them in jail. We all believe it is immoral to kill another person. I am a father, a parent, that has children that are living and if someone were to take the life of any of my children, I would hope that society wouldn’t fail me and that we would all agree that taking their life was wrong. How is it that we ignore the fact that it’s the mother of these children that are allowed to take their lives, because it affects their own life? Why is it ok? Anyone who is sitting here defending pro choice is still not facing the REAL issue and that is, even if you yourself wouldn’t have an abortion, why is it okay for another woman to be allowed to kill an innocent life?????????? I’m waiting to hear….
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:17 pm
KitKatBar… you said “She’s going to try to impress her beliefs on the country when she can’t even impress them upon her own daughter?”….. sorry but this is typical liberalism…. To say that because her daughter made a choice to do something against what her mom would have wanted otherwise, makes her unqualified to impress her own beliefs on the country……. this is exactly why Sarah (my wife) says “harsh” comments about liberals and democrats, because this is typically where the attacks end up being… and completely nonsensical they are
Besides, I don’t mind if Democrats or Liberals come here and find themselves insulted. I imagine Sarah doesn’t care much for trying to cater to their ideas, and that’s what makes Sarah an INDIVIDUAL… aren’t Democrats all about personal rights of the individual, or does this not apply here?
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:24 pm
Veronica… Narrow minded because she doesn’t accept that babies should be killed as long as it protects a womans right to choose to kill? Hypocritical?… why because Sarah has ever made a mistake in her life? What are you? Are you not a hypocrite???? I love it when people call others hypocrites…
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:27 pm
Wutz…
I agree with you here….how voters “don’t want to hear about facts, numbers, or truth”
Just gotta be sure you are getting your facts from places other than CNN, celebrities, and Obama
September 4th, 2008 at 9:10 am
…and you may want to stop asking conservative media sources what the liberal media sources are…It’s always the same, tired line.
In fact, I don’t watch any 24-hour news station, I hate celebrities and I didn’t watch the DNC. Where do you think I get my facts? Better ask Faux News for their opinion because if you’re like most other conservatives (which you may or may not be, I don’t know you) you’ve been handed an opinion by a news station (odd, Fox News was handed an opinion by the White House, ask McClellan).
About legislating morality: You cannot do it. As soon as you legislate morality you’ve imposed someone’s beliefs on someone else. I hate to tell you, not everyone has the same beliefs you have. Many people’s morality includes a belief that black people are not welcome in heaven. Would that be an appropriate moral to impose? You (specifically) may not feel black people are any less than white people, but many do. What about homosexuals? Atheists?
About abortion: It’s going to happen. Whether in a sterile clinic (where oftentimes solutions other than abortion are recommended to the patients) or in a back alley, there are abortions that will take place. Where would you like to have your surgeries done?
(I hope you don’t think I’m attacking you, I’m really not, I’m just pulling your quotes because they remind me of larger issues I’d like to address and your text provides a good example)
“aren’t Democrats all about personal rights of the individual, or does this not apply here?”
True progressive thought would specify freedom to be absolutely unregulated behavior until it infringes upon someone else’s rights. So, an ideal liberal who is unconnected to this story would say “what she said is fine.” Some people just don’t like to be insulted. I’d imagine you don’t.
Unfortunately this blog-o-life creates connections between people who have never met so when a regular reader (who has somehow become interested in Sarah Blogowner’s life) is personally insulted, there’s a bit of vitriol that comes out (from both sides).
I typically wouldn’t read something like this blog, and I typically wouldn’t leave a comment on it, but I couldn’t let an attack on people with progressive thoughts slide without a bit of a rebuttal. Sorry if I’ve offended anyone. I honestly mean no ill-will and if some of my words were a bit pointed, I didn’t intend them to be.
September 4th, 2008 at 10:30 am
I think everyone has had their chance to say what they want so I’m closing comments now.